Understanding Ego & Energy Healing: A Soulful Conversation: With Daphne Michaels

Daphne Michaels Interview

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You know those people who speak in a way that doesn’t just land in your mind. Somehow they also land in your heart. That’s how I felt when I first heard today’s guest, Daphne Michaels. Daphne is a human potential expert. [00:01:00] Bestselling author and an incredible guide in the space of elevated consciousness.

But underneath all of that, she’s someone who deeply understands the layers of what it means to be human, the grief, the struggle, the desire to feel more connection, and the potential inside each of us that’s just waiting to be remembered. Daphne’s work is all about energy, awareness, healing, and helping people step into the most aligned, vibrant version of themselves.

And what I love is that she makes it feel doable and real, grounded and powerful. As you listen today, I’d love for you to reflect on this, what might change in your life if you believed that you were already whole? Just needed to reconnect with that truth. [00:02:00] Let’s get started. Hello, Daphne. How are you? I’m doing well, TIFF.

Thank you so much, and thank you for such a beautiful introduction. It means a lot to me. Oh, wonderful. I’m so grateful that you are here today, and just so you know, I always like to go beyond that intro and give my guests. The chance to share in your own words, who you are today in this moment, and what is your deeper why behind the work that you are doing now.

Thank you for that opportunity. I am a, an ultra consciousness guide. I think that’s how I would define myself. I used to define myself as a psychotherapist, a licensed psychotherapist, but you know, any kind of career, label that, that we can imagine is way too small, I think. To really talk about who we [00:03:00] are.

And so I would say ultra consciousness guide is, is what I tend to lean toward. I’m also an energy healer and I use an energetic framework to support people. The why for me goes back to when I was 19 years old and I had a spiritual awakening, and I did not understand it at the time, but I know that it, it basically, it took me to an elevated state of consciousness.

Where I understood extremely clearly that life is much grander than what we typically live in our daily lives. And then I started on a journey to understand what happened to me. And then I, of course, wanted to help others because I think that’s just natural when we come into these elevated states of consciousness.

So let’s go back to that beginning that. Mm-hmm. [00:04:00] When you were 19 years old, the beginning of your journey with consciousness and healing, what was the moment that cracked you open where you knew that your life was going to look a lot different than what it was at that point? Well, I think I have to actually go back further than that because I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that I grew up on a lot of acreage, so I spent a lot of time in nature and I think it was being in nature that helped me understand a resonance to something that felt really true. And contrasting that with what I understood the world of, you know, everyday world to be with tensions and struggles, even in our own home, you know, there were six kids, it was a little bit wild. There was always some kind of chaos going on and tragedy at times with different [00:05:00] illnesses and accidents and different things.

I think I was working at a really deep level to understand how it is that in nature, everything seemed so peaceful, but in everyday life everything seemed so chaotic. And so by the time I was 19, that kind of came to a head, I think, and I took a long drive. I ended up on a mountain road and I didn’t really know where I was going, but I think the universe led me to go on this mountain road.

It was very foggy. I cleared the fog and as I cleared the fog, the starlight was so bright and vast that something shifted in me. I actually got out of my car and I looked up and I had an epiphany and I couldn’t put it into [00:06:00] words, but it was an epiphany about how amazingly grand our life is, and so that never left me, and I had to understand what happened in that moment, and what I came to understand is that my ego actually collapsed in that moment.

That, that’s called an ego collapse. When we have these huge breakthroughs, when we feel like we’re trapped and stuck and, and we can’t move forward. And I think maybe some of your listeners can relate to that in this moment because of life circumstances. We think we’re trapped and we think we’re stuck, and then somehow we have a breakthrough.

And when we have a breakthrough, what is literally breaking is our ego structure so that this deeper part of us can start to come through. [00:07:00] And that’s the elevated part, that’s the deeper truth. So let’s talk about that ego thing. Yeah. Right. ’cause it’s, it can be very sneaky sometimes. It sure can just be fully running the show, or we think it is running the show.

So what are a few signs that ego is driving our decisions and how can we gently start to loosen that grip that it has on us so that we can. Get to that place, we can have those epiphanies. We can feel like there’s more to this than all the hardships. What’s really exciting about this conversation with you right now is that the conversation about ego is not something that was common even 10 years ago.

Mm-hmm. But it is in mainstream. People are really, [00:08:00] people really want to understand what the ego is, and it’s confusing. So from an eastern perspective, Eastern spirituality, the gurus would say it’s important to let go of your ego in order to feel enlightened. But from a Western perspective, psychotherapists and, and psychology would say very important to strengthen your ego so that you can survive.

So that’s what makes it so confusing about what is ego? Should I let it go, or should I strengthen it, or what should I do? The truth of the matter is a little bit of both. What we need to do is we need to become, um, shapeshifters. So the ego is a program, it’s a, you know, people are starting to talk about our brain as a [00:09:00] biological computer. Because we’re, of course, we’re looking at AI as a brain and we’re saying, you know, AI has a brain and we have a brain, and it works very much the same.

It’s a lot of patterns and thoughts where they automatically come together. So there’s a program in our psyche that allows us to be very quick in terms of defending ourselves because the world is not always safe. So the ego formed in us as this program by the time we were seven years old.

And so it’s not very sophisticated. It is really very much reactive, and we’re gonna get mad and we’re gonna get sad, and we’re gonna throw tantrums in our own way. And we’re gonna say life isn’t fair and we’re gonna hold a grudge and [00:10:00] we’re going to do all of these things that don’t really benefit us.

Now the truth of the matter is when we’re out in the world and there’s a lot of games that are played at work or you know, we don’t always understand the social dynamics because there’s hidden agendas and all that kind stuff. Our ego is going to protect us by blocking out what does not feel safe, and it’s gonna block it out in many different ways, through anger, through sadness, through depression, through anxiety, through whatever.

That’s okay if we’re in that situation. However, it’s not going to allow us to grow and develop at a deeper level. So that’s where we need to actually learn to shape shift. So shape shifting is about moving into [00:11:00] a more protected environment so that we can be vulnerable. Because vulnerability, I know as, as one of the main themes of your show and your purpose for sharing is important because it opens us up to ourself and it opens up the potential to connect at a deeper level with other people.

But it also means that we are open to attack. So we don’t wanna be vulnerable in places that we don’t feel safe. So then the spiritual journey in letting go of the ego is about finding more places that we feel safe. So that could be in nature, it could be with loved ones, it could be in a protected environment of a retreat or working with a coach.

The places that we feel safe, we can begin to relax. The ego. [00:12:00] So when we relax the ego, this other deeper part of us, our spirit begins to develop pathways. And when I say pathways, I’m talking about neurological pathways. Thought patterns, emotional patterns that are on a higher and more elevated, more sophisticated level.

When we learn how to be at this higher level and we develop what is in our potential to develop, we can carry this program back out into the world. We don’t have to protect ourself because now we’re sophisticated enough to navigate away from people who are playing ego games and connect with people who are really interested in a deeper and safer connection where we can [00:13:00] be creative and team and partner and connect on a higher level.

I have so many questions. Ah, gosh. Okay. So the first one that I have, um, I’ll try and remember the second one I have, the first one that I have is, is that ego, does it mature and grow with your age or is it stuck in that zero to seven age and you are living on that age pattern? Throughout. Exactly. That is exactly right.

People are living as seven year olds when their ego is in charge. Wow. Okay. Mm-hmm. So like that, that is blowing my mind. So, and the, the reason it’s blowing my mind is because when I was going through a really, really dark time in, in my life, about [00:14:00] seven, seven years ago, I was in the why me, why me? Why me?

Why is all of this. Happening to me. Mm-hmm. And it literally felt like I was a child. Like I was exactly laying on the floor and having a tantrum and just being, being a brat. And until I was just like, I literally, I just had another aha. Oh my goodness. So when I was in that darkest time, I actually went and hid behind the clothes in my closet.

Mm-hmm. Like a child, like when they are, like, where they’ve had too much or they’re mm-hmm. Like they’re done. Yes. They escape. Right. Absolutely. And that is what I did. I was, I was actually hiding from my children, so it was because I, right. I had had too much of the overstimulation of parenting now mm-hmm.

That I [00:15:00] was, I was done and I went and hid and it was only in. The moment where I saw a fork in the road where it was like, ’cause I was done. I was done. Mm-hmm. With life. Mm-hmm. To be honest with you. Mm-hmm. And it was either get help or check out and I decided to get help and it was in that moment where I was with my therapist and I had tried a couple others before her, but it was with her where I found that safety.

And that connection to really be vulnerable, that things just started to open up for me. And so that really resonates with me what you just said about that connection and that safety. It’s, there’s a map to it. There’s definitely a map to the breakthrough, and it generally [00:16:00] is when the pressure builds to the point that, that we’re breaking down.

It sounds like you had a breakdown. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. And yes, we regress. We regress to that ego, pure ego, 7-year-old, you know, child way of coping because we’re trying to cope, right? We just don’t have the more sophisticated skills to cope. Mm-hmm. So we’re basically, we have a breakdown, and that’s the breakdown of the ego.

Which is awesome because the breakdown is also the breakthrough. And so then the journey begins. It’s not like we can break through the ego and be like this, walk out as this fully developed to enlightened, more mature person. Mm-hmm. It actually just gives us the opportunity to learn step by step by step, [00:17:00] how to live on a higher level of consciousness and empowerment.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So you talk about quantum awareness in a way that makes sense, which for me is big deal because let’s be real, it can be a big concept. For someone who’s listening, who’s new to it, how would you explain what quantum awareness looks like in real life, especially when they’re in a hard season of their life?

Mm-hmm. This is another concept that is becoming more and more popular now, and for people that sit with it and try to understand it and kind of roll it around as a question rather than saying, oh, that’s just too hard to understand, or that’s, you know, that’s just something that people say or whatever.

For people that actually try to understand quantum awareness, it is a [00:18:00] portal to an entire opening of life, and this is why about 95% of the energy in the universe is not physical. It’s not matter, it is energy. So Einstein’s theory, basically break it down. Energy and matter are the same thing in different forms.

Mm-hmm. When it comes to our grand life, when we look at the stars and the galaxies and the mountains and the incredible experience of our grand life, everything that we see is only 5% of the dynamics that are at play in our lives. Now when we take this into a practical level, we begin to understand that we cannot see our thoughts, but we know they’re real.

We cannot [00:19:00] see our emotions, but look at the story that you shared that was very courageous to share that, by the way, and I’ve gotta just do a little aside here, because I’ve worked with a lot of mothers who are so embarrassed to say that they’re not enjoying parenting, that they just lock it in, right?

Because it’s, it’s taboo to say. I can’t deal with this. This is too much. It’s too overstimulating. Mm-hmm. And for you to be able to say you had those moments is going to free so many mothers to say, you know what? Mothering is the hardest job in the world and we need to help mothers cope. They should not be alone.

They should be supported. And, um, anyway, I just had to say that. Thank you. Okay, so, but that entire process that you went [00:20:00] through was quantum it. Nobody, nobody. But you could understand it because you were dealing with the real energy. You were wrestling the overstimulation, you were wrestling, the, the needs of your children.

You were wrestling the forces at hand, and you almost lost the battle. Mm-hmm. So for anybody to say, these battles are not real. They’re wrong. These battles are forces that are colliding inside of us that could literally take us out if we don’t understand how to work with the energy of those forces. Mm.

That’s quantum awareness. Quantum awareness is being aware of the energy of the forces that collide [00:21:00] inside of us, the emotions that collide. The thoughts that collide. And on the other side, this big love that we have, the experience, uh, that we can experience big inspiration, big awe, this bigness of life is all in the quantum level.

Mm-hmm. When we talk about quantum awareness, we’re talking about the energetics that shape our life and world. Mm-hmm. So you’ve worked with energy healing for many, many years. Many years. Many years. Um, for someone who’s curious, but maybe skeptical, what do you wish more people understood about energy healing?

It’s natural to us as human beings to be able to affect one another. Positively or negatively and [00:22:00] the, the energy of our presence. And you know this because you found a therapist that you felt safe with. Her energy gave you the opportunity to heal. So take that presence and as human beings, consider the possibility that we can direct that presence for the good of others, so we can direct that presence of light and love and purity and healing.

We can actually direct it through our hands. And when we direct it through our hands, we can help other people and ourselves shift the vibration and frequency of those forces inside of us in seconds. Seconds to bring freedom and relief. [00:23:00] And that is what an energy healer can do. Mm-hmm. And that is the medicine of the future.

So can you give us a couple of examples of real life energy shifts that you’ve seen recently that is like, okay, yeah, this really works. This is amazing. I wish everybody did this. Oh. It’s amazing and I’m going to tell you a story that you might say, oh my gosh, could that really happen? And I will tell you 100% it happened.

I’ve had the opportunity to to work, to be in an emergency room when somebody that I knew was having, could have been having a stroke, um, their, their blood pressure was very, very high and the doctors were concerned and the doctors allowed me to do energy work while they were in the emergency room trying to figure things out, and I could see the [00:24:00] monitor in the room and I could put my hands near the person and see it on the screen what was happening, that it was calming things down. Okay, so, and not only that, yeah, no, it’s, that is wild. Yes. However, I wanna take you to a story. This was, um, for those of you who have seen little women with Susan Sarandon.

There was a scene when her daughter in the show, in the movie was, was very close to death, and the sisters were trying to keep her alive. Keep her alive, and Susan Sarandon was the mother. And I’ll never forget it because , it showed Susan Sarandon walk into the room with such confidence and certainty that her daughter was not going anywhere.

She walked over to [00:25:00] her feet , intuitively right instinctually, and she put her hand on the feet on her daughter’s feet, and she said something, but she was literally keeping her in her body. Mm, okay. Mm-hmm. I think every single one of us has an instinct when we’re around people we care about energetically to help them out of hard spots, whether that’s physically, emotionally, spiritually.

And it’s our energy that’s doing it. It’s the frequency of the energy that we are directing and commanding that is allowing this shift to take place to get people back on the right path. Mm-hmm. So I love that and I love that you actually got to witness that in. Yes. In real time on the screen, [00:26:00] seeing the effect that the energy healing is having on somebody.

It’s incredible. It’s incredible. There. There’s another example, let me give you this example. You know those mood rings? Mm-hmm. So I knew somebody who went to a, who had worked with me and was learning energy healing and I used to teach it. I used to certify people in, in energy healing. So she knew energy healing.

She knew how to organize her own energy at a high level to be a healer for other people. And she went to a little retreat with, a group of women and the facilitator passed around the mood ring or the mood stone, and they said, try to make it. The color. I can’t remember what the color was, but it was a color of calm.

Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. Right. Rather than stress. Yeah. And people were like trying and trying and trying. They’d open [00:27:00] it now, try, try, try. Open it. No. Try, try, try. Open it. No. And it came to her. She put it in her hand and she went, boom. She organized her energy, just like I taught her to organize her energy as a healing presence.

Boom. Opened her hand. It turned into the non-stress color. Yeah. So there’s a lot of science right now that is all about this. Yeah. And it’s our birthright. It’s our birthright to understand how to do things energetically that bring out the best in us and in others. So this podcast is all about healing our hearts.

Mm-hmm. And your work goes deep into our energy body. Can you share a bit about how the heart holds emotion and energy, and maybe even trauma, and what we can do to start healing that [00:28:00] space even more. So I love that you’re putting, you’re putting your hand right in the center of your chest. So that would be in my work as an energy healer.

That is the heart center right there. So we think of the heart, the actual anatomical heart as kind of off to the left. Mm-hmm. But the actual emotional heart is right in the center of our chest and this is an area that we store unprocessed pain, so that which we cannot process. And remember I said 95% of reality is in the energetic realm.

It is in the subatomic, which also means the subconscious. So we’re stuffing pain, we’re stuffing unprocessed emotion, and so our heart is pretty filled with [00:29:00] pain a lot of time, and we’re trying to live above it, like just this little, little teeny tiny place above all the pain. So with energetic processes, we’re actually able to transmute that pain so that our heart is open and pure again. And so that is where we get back in touch with who we really are because we want to live in a state of love. It’s just part of being human. We arrive that way. Many people leave that way, but in the middle we get stuck.

So working energetically actually helps us purify and transmute the pain into pure open space for our heart. But there’s something more that happens. Maybe I should [00:30:00] give you an example, first of all, yes, so, so an example for people who want to heal their heart, one of the best ways to do it is to get up in the morning and watch the sunrise, and not only watch the sunrise, but feel the rays of the sun moving through us in the front and out the back, and let the rays of the sunrise break up those parts of our heart that are filled with old pain, right? We don’t even have to know what it is. We don’t have to bring it through our emotional, we don’t have to bring it up to our consciousness. We can leave it in our unconscious, but just clear it. Just cleanse it.

Just be in that energy. And what will happen is we’ll start to feel a little happier, and when we feel a little happier, that means our heart is [00:31:00] healing. And so we just work with that. Try to heal our heart every single day as part of our routine. Whatever happened that day try to heal our heart. But what happens?

Energetically is as we heal our heart and we get that light moving back inside us and we’re connected to the big, grand, incredible experience that we have here on this planet. Our heart blossoms and our entire electromagnetic field, which goes out beyond our body, ends up as part of our heart so that when we connect with people, they actually feel our warmth.

We’re we’re. And does their heart start to also heal as well? Yes. Yes, because there is, uh, energetic resonance. Hmm. Right. So then [00:32:00] we have more heart that we’re bringing to our lives, and then other people will meet us at that frequency because it’s a natural thing to meet people at the frequency that they’re at.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So. That is so beautiful, and that’s exactly what my mission is, is to, inspire people to always be healing their heart because of, of the potential, right? That it can just, it not only improve their lives, but everybody around them because of that quantum aspect of it. Absolutely. And that’s a beautiful work.

Isn’t it amazing to have a mission mm-hmm. To support people in healing their heart? Mm-hmm. It’s, I think this is the time for whatever reason. The time is here for people like you and [00:33:00] others to be talking directly about it directly, there’s nothing more important than healing our heart. Mm-hmm.

There’s nothing more important than developing our human potential. Mm-hmm. There’s nothing more important than letting go of the ego when we can live above it. So some, uh, I know a lot of people have said to me like, healing is a big ask, right? Like it’s a big thing. It’s a huge mountain to climb sometimes.

So what is something small and maybe even surprising that you’ve seen make a big difference in somebody who’s just starting out on their healing journey? So there’s a, there’s something that I tell people because people think that it’s going to be a great big ask, but we’re not even sure if that’s true because I have [00:34:00] seen people heal in like one day, right? I mean, you’ve seen through all that, right? Well, others are going to have a different journey, right? So we just never know. But I think it’s important to understand that healing is nothing more or less than our heart surviving our life. Okay, so the question is, has my heart survived my life?

And I’ve had times in my life where I’ve shut my heart down. It’s been like Uhuh. I’m not gonna feel I’m, I’m done. I’m done. Mm-hmm. I, I’m not, I’m not, Nope. Not getting any of my heart kind of thing. Yep. But when I do that, when anybody does that, it stops our journey, like stops it. Like, [00:35:00] you know, can I interrupt you for one second please?

When you said those words, like, I’m just telling you right now, it’s 1111 here, so like that is wild because my heart survived my life and I was just like, what the heck? So anyway, I love those kinds of synchronicities. So do I. Yeah. I watch for them. Mm-hmm. That, thank you for saying that. That kinda gives me, you know, goosebumps.

Yes. Oh, me too. Exactly. We keep going. Exactly. So, so, you know, we can stop our growth journey anytime by shutting our heart down. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. We do not get any brownie points for having a shut down heart. Mm-hmm. Unfortunately, and not only that, we can shut it down for five years before we know it.

Five years have gone by. We have withered. We have not grown. [00:36:00] We have not healed. Life has passed us by, in some ways, people have given up on us in some ways. Mm-hmm. Or we can say, I’m just gonna do my best to keep my heart open because that is my birthright. Mm-hmm. And when we remember even one memory when we were young when our heart was open, I remember when I was about six years old coming upon a little birds nest and the little baby birds inside the nest and the mommy bird feeding the baby birds. And I went into unity consciousness like I was floating in this experience of magic and mystery and that’s an experience of the heart being open.

I was in awe. Those memories from a quantum perspective, those memories are live. That energy is not gone. [00:37:00] Mm-hmm. All I have to do when I feel like something has happened and my heart’s gonna close, I just remember that. And I can’t help but for my heart to open again. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

So there’s ways that we can make the choice, make the choice to live with an open heart. Mm-hmm. And then we’re back on our path. Then we learn how, we learn how to protect ourselves, we learn how to get into higher states of consciousness, where we become smarter than the chaos. We become smarter than the brokenness.

We become smarter than the limitations and we just start living our life above all of that. So I think I know what you’re gonna say and what your answer is gonna be to this question, but I’m gonna ask it anyway. ’cause do you think that. People, some people come here truly just thinking that it’s a nine to five and that’s all, and I’m just living my [00:38:00] life and that’s all I’m here for.

Or do you think that everybody comes here and knows that they’re here to do the work, that they’re here to learn and grow and heal? Well, you know, once again, that has to do with our subconscious, right? So, so it’s really about how conscious are we, and I have met people that have said that they never believed in a million years.

That life could be magical, that life could be incredible, and they used to think that people that would talk about that, were lying. I was one of them. Right, right. That, that, that, you know. Yeah. And, and then they had an experience through our work where their [00:39:00] heart opened and they said, I’ve never felt this before.

It’s kind of like being in love, but you’re in love with life. That’s perfect. Yes. Right there. You’re not in love with someone. You’re in love uhhuh with life. You’re in love with life and exactly everything about that. Exactly. That is a higher state of consciousness. That’s what we’re aiming for. So I think some people.

They are a little bit clueless. Right on, on a, on a conscious level, they are a little bit clueless that this entire dimension to life exists. But then there are also the people that believed that it existed and that became disillusioned. Mm-hmm. Because whatever path they were on, or whatever experiences they had, they [00:40:00] pretty much said.

Life let me down. Mm-hmm. I will never believe again. Mm-hmm. And that is even more dangerous. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Because that’s where the journey begins. The journey begins when we think life has let us down, but we actually haven’t even tapped into the magic. Yeah, exactly. So our world is full of a lot of noise and pressure.

Distractions, like the doom scrolling and all that. How do you stay connected to your higher self and your higher truth? And what is keeping you aligned with everything around you? Um, when it feels chaotic. I have an incredible belief that every single person on the planet right now is part of this incredible transformation we’re going [00:41:00] through, and I see what’s happening in our world as part of a huge transformation and an opportunity for everyone to move into a higher state of consciousness. So I think it’s my belief, my very strong belief that, um, you know, I get up every day and I say, okay, gotta keep working at it. Gotta keep working at it because we’re going to bring love to the planet, right?

And what a better mission to have. And for so many people to recognize that this is their mission too. Mm-hmm. And that, and that we can do this. Mm-hmm. Right? And so then I think it’s a matter of actually doing the work. So whatever we’re called to do, whether it’s writing or podcasting or working with clients or helping somebody out, whatever we’re called to [00:42:00] do.

When we do that, we have entered into an infinity loop of quantum energy. What we’re putting out is coming back to us. Mm-hmm. Rather than being in the ordinary world of what I give drains me. We’re in an elevated experience of what I give out comes back to me. Mm-hmm. And that is where the magic begins.

Yeah. I, I know that when I first started doing what I do like with the podcast and, and all of that is because that ego mind was so, so ingrained in me that it was a competition. Everything was a competition. Well, ah, if I’m not, um, doing X, Y, z, like they are, then they are doing a better job at helping people heal in this world.

And that has been an evolution of dropping that [00:43:00] ego and not even caring what other people are doing. Just focusing on. Absolutely. What we understand is that the entire way that our world has functioned before becoming conscious is all riddled with the ego. So there’s competition and there’s blind ambition, and there’s all of these really unhealthy energies.

That, they eat us up, right? Mm-hmm. So in this other world, the real world of love, none of that is there. And it’s actually how we know we’re in the new world. Mm-hmm. Because the new world is a world of celebration and it feels different in our bodies. It feels safe, it feels connected, it feels real.

[00:44:00] And then we get a little whiff of that other world that’s based on numbers and all of these external ways to measure us and all of that. And we begin to go, Ooh, like we’ve just kind of gotten cattle prodded or something. Energetically it just doesn’t feel good. That’s, and then, sorry to interrupt you.

That is exactly, that is exactly what it feels like as a cattle prod. Every time I’m like, okay, why did I, that many listens? You know, like, exactly. I have to step away and I don’t care. I don’t care. No, no. Well, you know, the thing is, is that, it doesn’t matter how many people listen, it matters that the right people listen.

Exactly. Exactly right. That one person that is wherever they are in this world, yes, they were meant to hear it at that moment. Exactly. In their [00:45:00] journey, and they heard it then that’s it. Yes. Then that’s it. Right? Because what we realize is that at this higher state, this, this state of love and, and energy that it’s based on magnetics.

It’s not based on approval. It’s not based on somebody else saying that you have these numbers, therefore you’re okay, or, or whatever. That becomes ludicrous from this other point of view. It’s like, what are they doing that just, that’s awful. Yeah. That’s a total buzz kill to be honest with you.

Like I was going to work with, um, this really, really, really good podcaster and I still probably will, but the first question that these people ask is, what’s your downloads? And blah, blah. And I actually looked at and I said, I actually don’t care. Like Exactly, I don’t care. And his look was just like, well, why don’t you care?

Because I don’t, I [00:46:00] just, yeah. I don’t want to actually care about it. Right. No, of course not. And that, that is, you know, the, the business mindset has not quite caught up with higher consciousness. Mm-hmm. Right? So people are still looking at analytics as a measure of how successful they’ll be. But here’s the funny thing about it.

Anybody that understands the success of a business, and I also do business consulting. I work with businesses, small businesses, leadership, consulting. I actually love to, to bring people into the higher levels of leadership and business. Mm-hmm. Because the truth of the matter is success. It’s impossible to have success without buzz.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. So when people have all of these downloads and dah, dah, dah, dah, it, [00:47:00] it often is because something is being pushed. Something is being forced somewhere. Whereas people that actually have the energy coming through their spirit.

And they’re magnetizing the people that need to listen, the people that need what you have to offer, the magnetics are going to grow over time. Mm-hmm. And that’s something that every single podcaster that wants to work with you should consider. They should be able to see your warmth and your buzz, and your commitment and your passion.

They should not worry about downloads at this stage because this is gold. This is the gold. And you have it. You have it. Thank you. Something that you have that I can’t wait to get into a little bit more is the. SHB movement, ah, where did this idea come from [00:48:00] and what kind of world are you dreaming into existence with it.

Thank you. I love the question. So the, the SHB movement stands for Stewards of a Higher Bandwidth. So it’s really about people who are motivated to become a steward of an elevated consciousness and you know, the consciousness that we just talked about, living into the age of love, bringing themselves into the age of love, learning how to live on higher states of consciousness, so.

This, I, I’ve taught energetics and consciousness work and human potential work for over 25 years, and I did it in person at an institute. People would come in and we’d do intensive work and, and so on and so forth. Lots of amazing success stories and I’ve written books and, and different things.

So [00:49:00] when COVID came around and I had to go online overnight, something amazing happened, and what happened was that I realized that I can do energy work and I can affect energetics through technology. Mm-hmm. Absolutely surprising, but not on a different level. Right. Because I think the universe knows what it’s doing and technology and energetics work together. They just do. Mm-hmm. So, uh, so I started, it took me a couple of years and then I launched the SHIB movement, the SHB movement. I call it the SHIB movement. Mm-hmm. And this is where people are coming in as a community and I’m teaching just like I am talking right now, I actually am teaching energetics and getting to higher states of consciousness at least four times a month.

And then lots and [00:50:00] lots of other resources to help people hop onto this path of elevating consciousness and ride the wave and be part of it and, and come together as a community and dream it into existence. And so yeah, the, the people coming into it are extraordinary and all walks of life. We don’t talk about politics or religion, but people come from different political viewpoints and different religions, but they have one thing in common.

They want to develop their human potential. They want to develop their heart, they want to develop their consciousness, and they want to be part of this exploration. Mm-hmm. So that’s what the should movement is. I love that. And for people who want to learn more, here is all of the information where you can check out Daphne, on her website, Instagram and YouTube.

And all of the links will be in the show notes [00:51:00] so definitely check them out there. If someone’s listening right now, Daphne, and feeling that pull to go deeper, what would you want to leave them with today? Follow it. Right. If you are ready to step onto this path, your ego will tell you all the reasons not to.

Your ego will try to stop you. It will say, oh no, you don’t need to do that. That’s not this, or that’s not that. And what’s so and so gonna think and what’s so and so going to think and all of that. Ignore all of it because this is your spirit calling you and there is nothing more exhilarating in life than to live with our spirit.

Mm-hmm. For sure. A hundred million percent agree. So before we go, I always ask my guests what they are grateful for today. What are you grateful for today [00:52:00] in this moment? I am grateful for the opportunity to do what I love, which is to spread the word, and you are doing amazing work. So thank you. This has been such a beautiful and calming and soul deep conversation.

If something stirred in you while you listened. If you felt your body relax or your thoughts slow down, or even that little whisper of what if more is possible here, then I hope that you’ll take a moment today to just be with that. Daphne reminded us that healing doesn’t always start with a strategy.

Sometimes it starts with awareness or with a breath or a hand on your heart. Like we did with choosing to listen to the part of ourselves that we usually [00:53:00] ignore. If you are craving more space to connect, I’ve created a free guided meditation that you can download@tiffcarson.com. It is gentle, it’s simple.

It’s only eight minutes, and it’s such a great reset when you feel overwhelmed. And if you haven’t yet, get on my weekly Exhale newsletter. I share stories, a little aha moment, soulful tools, and it’s honestly become a really sweet way to stay connected with so many of you people are replying to it every week now.

They’re saying I needed this, so come and join us. The link to sign up will be in the show notes of the episode. Daphne, thank you so much again for being here and for sharing your wisdom and your presence. I had so many ahas and for helping us remember that we are more powerful and more connected and more [00:54:00] divine than we’ve ever been told.

So thank you, thank you, thank you. And thank you, TIFF. It’s been a joy. Thank you. So until next time, friends, keep walking your hard, beautiful journey. Bye-bye. Thanks for being here for this episode of Hard, beautiful Journey. I hope today’s episode inspired you to embrace your own vulnerabilities and recognize the strength within you.

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